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mdoerner
01-08-2011, 05:40
Here the current list link....

http://members.cox.net/mdoerner1/Garand%20Serial%20Number%20List7.xls

New Notes:

Well, if you're reading this, you've noticed the change of venue! :D I've wanted to have a little more control over posts within the message thread for awhile. Thanks to the folks here at CSP I will have that ability. What I intend to do in the near future is "sticky" the thread to the top of the forum, and then "unsticky" it when the next revision of the list is released. Once I've mastered some of the more elaborate functions in the forum, I think I will change the color of the submitted entries below to indicate that they've been entered into the list, rather than have 1/2 of the posts of the thread having me say, "In Rev X". Anyways, this will be more than enough change for this month.

Old Notes:

Merry Xmas and Happy New Year!

Reminder: This list is updated once a month or so. Once you submit your data, it will not appear until Rev 7 which will be released Early to mid-January. Happy Holidays!

MAJOR THANKS to Paul serving in Afghanistan. He's fighting for our freedom and correcting some "housekeeping" columns on the far right side of the spreadsheet (Duplicate and consecutive S/N). You guys may not need 'em, but it makes editing the list SOOOOO much easier. Who knew things would get so boring over there that editing a spreadsheet would be considered "fun"?

Everyone seems to be keeping up with the data format for the most part, my only request right now is KEEP THE SPACES TO A MINIMUM AROUND THE COMMAS. The reason for this is the comma separates the data fields, and if you do proper English and put a space in after the comma, _it _will _shift _the _data _in _the _spreadsheet _cell _over _one _space. And that get's annoying to fix.

With the holidays coming up, the new releases (like this one) may get delayed a day or two. I don't plan on skipping any months (yet), esp if Santa brings a copy of their favorite toy to every good little girl and boy.....there will be lots of data to enter.

One other thing....Please use WRA, SA, IHC, and HRA for the description in the "make" column. People have been getting "creative" lately and that is another thing to fix. Also, Pvt Purch, CMP, & DCM are the preferred acronyms/shorthand for how the rifle was acquired. Thanks.

As many have you have guessed (or those remaining oblivious...not guessed by now), the main pet peeve going on right now is concerning the FORMAT of the data (i.e. the order in which it is placed, and how it is separated). It is VERY critical for the cut-and-paste method to work here that you follow the format EXACTLY WITHOUT VARIATION, IMPROVEMENT, ADDITION, SUBTRACTION, ADJUSTMENT, OR APPROXIMATION. If another spate of “serial number data improvisation” occurs, I reserve to right not include anyone who does not bother to correct the data string to reflect the cut-and-paste format shown below. OK, enough said on that.

Some of you have asked, "Why should I put my number in this list, you from the gubernment or some other nefarious organization after my gun??!" Short Answer: Nope. This list was originally conceived by someone else, who wanted to duplicate Scott Duff's data page examples for public viewing. This would allow easy access to new data on Danish, Greek, and any other variant not covered in any of Duff's material. Then that site got hacked bad, and the database couldn't be repaired. Someone on the CMP forum was kind enough to post the output text before the site was shut down.

So what is the purpose of this list now? I see two reasons 1.) See if you hit the S/N lottery (i.e. a S/N next to yours making a consecutive pair) and 2.) if you see a S/N you'd like to learn more about, you can PM the owner here on the CMP board, if that alias is the one used here. Hopefully we'll get a better idea of what was Greek, Danish, in Museums, Demilled/Destroyed, etc. to see "what's left" after the entire Garand production run. OK, 'nuff said.

For new entries, from now on, the fields are to be delimited with COMMAS, NOT SPACES.... Here are some examples....

Serial_number,Owner,Source,Make,Notes

2264738,mdoerner @ CSP,CMP,SA,VAR Barrel 3-66
2431541,mdoerner @ CSP,CMP,WRA,Greek Return Rifle – Rebarreled to .308 Winchester
5880066,mdoerner @ CSP,CMP,SA,BBL 5-55 SA Greek Return Rifle

00339988,I Have Way Way Way Too Many Spaces In My Alias,CMP,BMB,General Patton's PERSONAL Freakin' Garand

All of the above listed are in an acceptable, correct format. 5 data fields separated with 4 commas.

(But please, don't add a SA,**INC.**receiver to the list, they're commercial and don't mean anything in the context of this listing)

DO NOT USE MORE THAN 4 COMMAS PER DATA STRING**(or else)

For now, if your M1 has a SUFFIX in the S/N, please put that in the notes, NOT in the serial number field, as it plays heck with the sort filters.

Also, I have added known serial numbers from GCA Journals Volumes 22 thru [current volume] (sorry, that's all that I got.) If you have earlier issues, I consider those published S/N's fair game. Those S/N will be attributed to GCA Journal, not an individual (kinda like getting a museum piece's S/N.) Also, if you know of a Garand in a museum, grab it's S/N and let's get it on the list.

But please, do not enter someone else's S/N even if you see it clearly on a post. I want this to be voluntary and public information. If they want it in the list, let the owner do it. Also, clipping the last digits on your S/N means I can't put it in the list. Following the incorrect data format keeps you out of the list too. If you don't want it seen on the internet, but want it in the list, PM me.

Mike Doerner

Richard H Brown Jr
01-08-2011, 07:05
Serial_number,Owner,Source,Make,Notes

2264738,mdoerner,CMP,SA,VAR Barrel 3-66
2431541,mdoerner,CMP,WRA,Greek Return Rifle – Rebarreled to .308 Winchester
5880066,mdoerner,CMP,SA,BBL 5-55 SA Greek Return Rifle

Dear Mike:

For the list

3650786, RHBROWN, F.W.Woolworth,SA, Blue Skys Import stamped barrel, Receiver listed March 1945 production; Possible Korean return; Barrel S-A-3-49; all grey parkerized, except bolt darker black bolt pt no: D28287-12SA

Nice to see someone trying to compile data. Now if the Shipping Records from the various builders could be found to start the paper trail.

RHB

hitower
01-08-2011, 12:31
94067,hitower,CMP receiver,Commercial bbl
281402,hitower,CMP,VAR bbl
1541427,hitower,pvt purchase,Commercial bbl

Editor's Note: Please use the Serial_number,Owner,Source,Make,Notes format.

mdoerner
01-08-2011, 05:52
One thing I just thought of guys, since all the VALID user names in the list are from the CMP site, I would like to ask you to add the suffix " @ CSP" to your user names when posting here. So the new format would look like....

2264738,mdoerner @ CSP,CMP,SA,VAR Barrel 3-66
2431541,mdoerner @ CSP,CMP,WRA,Greek Return Rifle – Rebarreled to .308 Winchester
5880066,mdoerner @ CSP,CMP,SA,BBL 5-55 SA Greek Return Rifle

That way, if your username @ CSP does not match the username you have @ CMP, you can be contacted at the correct venue. Thanks guys!

PS To the guys who submitted in the above posts, I've added it to your usernames already, so don't worry about fixing anything.

Mike Doerner

John in Texas
01-09-2011, 09:22
Mike
If you are interested, I can email you a copy of the XCELL HRA Database of 507 HRAs I put together in the 2002-2006 period. Just drop me an email at jgedelman@hot.rr.com.

John in Texas

mdoerner
01-09-2011, 09:30
Hi John,

I guess whose Garand's are those? Did they give you permission to use their s/n's? Are you adding any S/N's to that list currently, or is the data fixed (i.e. not being added to)?

Mike D

PhillipM
01-09-2011, 08:42
2491082,PhillipM,Pvt Purch,WRA,SA Barrel 3-50, assembled from CMP receiver

My handle is the same on both forums

John in Texas
01-10-2011, 04:46
Mike
All my data was gathered thru public / internet sources with source identified for each serial number - CMP, Jouster, Scott Duff books, webpages and etc. Therefore, I did NOT ask permission to use their SNs. I have not added any serial numbers in several years.
When I started the database, I was trying to identify HRA orginal barrel/receiver pairs and date of receiver manufacture.

John in Texas

mdoerner
01-10-2011, 03:32
OK, I'll PM you with my email address......I'll look it over and see if I can get it into Rev 8.

Mike Doerner

4th_AD_son
01-11-2011, 11:56
I got a few Christmas presents to add:

2836578,4th_AD_son,CMP,SA,SA Barrel 5-44
101479,4th_AD_son,CMP,WRA,SA Barrel 2-52
150153,4th_AD_son,CMP,WRA,SA Barrel 3-52

rcnixon
01-11-2011, 05:32
Here are a couple more:

3862125,rcnixon @ CSP,DCM,SA,Acquired 9/1994
5596341,rcnixon @ CSP,CMP,HRA,Acquired 1998

Russ

bubbasuwannee
01-14-2011, 07:54
5446034,bubbasuwannee,CMP,SA,SA barrel 11-54,acquired 04Aug09
3328543,bubbasuwannee,CMP,SA,SA barrel 11-54,acquired 26Jun10

Watch the amount of commas please...

moonguar
01-14-2011, 06:00
677016,rec1mike@verizon,Potomac_Arms,SA,SA Barrel

Is this your gun? Who is rec1mike@verizon? All usernames should be @CMP or @CSP.......Please correct.Your username should be moonguar@CSP since this is the Culver's Shooting Page. What is Potomac_Arms? Shouldn't that read Pvt_Purchase?

sop2510
01-16-2011, 08:52
3002289,sop2510,DCM,SA,SA barrel 8-46,acquired 1990

Please watch the number of comma's you're using here, you've got one too many.

MMA10mm
01-17-2011, 07:48
272808, MMA10mm @ CSP, import, SA, returned from Isreal in early 90s or late 80s - bbl unmarked (Isreali replacement?)

In, but "import" is not a valid entry, changing to "Pvt Purch"

Twinson
01-19-2011, 08:05
2180700, Twinson, CMP, SA
4553143, Twinson, CMP, IHC, original LMR barrel
5755180, Twinson, CMP, HRA
1311494, Twinson, CMP, WRA
958466, Twinson, CMP, SA

OK, couple of things: You forgot the "@ CSP" for your username, and the spaces after the commas _shift _all _the _data _over _one _character. This causes stuff to be mis-aligned in the spreadsheet.

Redleg13a
01-22-2011, 07:18
2185226, Redleg13a, @ CMP, barrel UNK, located at Ft Bliss post museum. Rifle has Type II lockbar, curve side oprod, -12 B3 heatlot bolt, stock is walnut with F&F stamped behind receiver heal, rebuild proof P. Stamped lower band and stock ferrule, milled unmarked trigger guard, SA front sight and gas cylinder, flat plunger on buttplate.

t44e6
01-23-2011, 02:25
2493794,t44e6 @ CSP,CMP,SA,SA BBL 4-63 - RECEIVER LEG MARKED A4 9-64

kettle
01-26-2011, 01:55
1462733,kettle @ CSP,CMP,SA, barrel marked 2-S-A-5-44
3150203,kettle @ CSP,CMP,SA, barrel marked 3-S-A-5-44

moonguar
01-28-2011, 05:56
2418834,moonguar,CMP,WRA,barrel marked SA 1-55

tsbarfield
01-28-2011, 07:40
Please add the following Garands

5824199,tsbarfield@CSP,CMP,SA,Barrell SA 2-55
4766369,tsbarfield@CSP,CMP,HRA,Barrel HRA 5-54

gpgofast
01-30-2011, 08:39
Add my CMP HRA to your list:

5524175,gpgofast,CMP,HRA,Barrel HRA 8-54
This doesn't to conform to the cut-and-paste format, re-submit.

LanceS4803@aol.com
01-30-2011, 03:36
Two more for you.

273050,LanceS4803,CMP,SA, Barrel SA 4-47

2519631,LanceS4803,CMP,SA,Barrel 6-52,M1D
You forgot the @ CSP in your username. I'll put it in this time, don't forget it next time

wstanley
02-02-2011, 02:01
Hey Mike, Got another one!

1883580,wstanley,CMP,SA,SA-5-51 Barrel

Thanks,
Wess

TackDriver
02-04-2011, 07:23
Here's an HRA that looks to be the highest 4 Mil. yet and it appears to be all correct. I hope I entered the info correctly

4799219,TackDriver@csp,PvtPucrch,HRA,HRA 7/54 barrel all parts HRA

mdoerner
02-05-2011, 09:22
Hey kids,

I'm going to try and release Rev 8 this weekend.....if anyone is thinking of getting their list of S/N's submitted, now would be a good time to do it, otherwise you'll be in the Rev 9 release.....

Mike Doerner

mdoerner
02-06-2011, 08:52
Okie-Dokie,

I'm going to close this thread, update Rev 8, and release the new spreadsheet today.

Mike Doerner