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What the heck has happened to the world? If the lion and the lamb can lie down together, I guess the "banking queen'" and the isolationist can do the same, no? (Has Ron Paul gone to the dark side?)
What say you BTBM and sysad? You are both noted experts on these brave souls, so I await your comments with raucous desire!
Ron Paul has been working dillegently on passing his "Audit the Fed" bill for months. He now has 282 co-sponsors and Barney Frank, as chair of the finance committee is having to take it seriously.
Dan In Indiana
Old Ron is a little bit on the nutty side, but while watching him on C-Span one day grilling some of the Fed idiots, I'm starting to like him, but not for the Presidency. But then some consider Glen Beck, nuttier than a fruit cake, but has extremely high ratings and an ever growing audience and following.
If believing in the Constitution, all of it, constitutes nuttiness, I am as nutty as Ron Paul. Don't forget, those who are working dilligently to dismantle our republic use propaganda to label people and make them seem irrelevant. They had no valid arguments against the things Ron Paul was saying so they ignored or trivialized him, locked him out of network news and tried to convince everyone that he is ridiculous. Now that much of what he warned of is coming to pass, he is finally getting just a small amount of notice.
I used to be very skeptical of Glen Beck until I heard him apologize to some he had once attacked. He used the words, "...I said when I still believed the lie..." After that, I began to trust him more. Anyone who stands up to the "establishment" is going to be attacked one way or another.
It's my guess that they are not laying down together, rather Frank is kicking the teeth out of the bill.
Bob - The Beagle Master
To neutralize and trivialize any bill that Ron Paul or any other Repubican introduces into his committee. I've never said that Ron Paul doesn't have some great ideas. My only objection to Ron Paul, or to Bob Barr who I personally like and admire, is the fact that neither one of them has ever or will ever have a good shot at winning the White House. I didn't want McCain to be the candidate but he was the candidate before anyone in Indiana had a chance to vote in a primary. In fact I honestly didn't like any Republican candidate but I will never waste my vote on any third party candidate. :icon_salut:
Bob, you and I shall continue to disagree on what constitutes a wasted vote. To me, voting for a scum sucking traitor who is pushing a hundred years of unwinnable war, amnesty for anywhere from 12 to 40 million illegals, giving them our social security, and providing them with free health care, education and welfare when so many Americans are going hungry is a bigger wasted vote than spending it on a third party candidate when the GOP insists on shoving a walking, talking piece of garbage down our collective throats.
Yes, I am sure Republicans like me are partially responsible for Obumma being elected but I wonder if our influence was any where near as great as that of the voting machines. Since Ron Paul dropped out, I voted for Chuck Baldwin with no regrets. All we could do was lose either way.
Bob, I voted for McCain, and I consider my vote wasted. In hindsight I wish that I had sent a message, at least my vote might have done some good, instead of encouraging the Country Clubbers.
...than spending it on a third party candidate when the GOP insists on shoving a walking, talking piece of garbage down our collective throats.
:headbang: Sys Ad, you rock!
I voted for Thompson
And here is the latest from the Campaign for Liberty on what the Dems are trying to do to the Audit the Fed bill.
Dear Friend of Liberty,
Our grassroots Revolution has set its sights on restoring a sound monetary policy to our nation, and every day we are awakening more of our countrymen to the dangers of Federal Reserve secrecy and its stranglehold on our economy.
A year ago, no one in the political establishment would have believed that a bill to thoroughly audit the Fed would have almost two-thirds of the House (including every Republican representative and nearly one hundred Democrats) and a quarter of the Senate on board.
Certainly, no one would have bet that three-fourths of the American people would support such an audit.
As many of you may have heard by now, recent statements from Representative Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, have indicated that the House will vote on Audit the Fed in the next few months.
However, rather than voting on HR 1207 as a standalone bill, many in Congress hope to roll it into the comprehensive regulatory reform package recently proposed by the White House.
This reform package grants new, more comprehensive powers to the Fed and strengthens the government's control over our economy. C4L and other friends of liberty stand in opposition to this proposal, as well as any other attempt to convert this historic movement for transparency into yet another rubber-stamping of politics as usual.
It is imperative that Audit the Fed come before the House and Senate on its own merits.
The American people stand behind a thorough audit of the Fed, and we should not be adding additional powers when we don't fully know what is being done with the ones they currently have.
Call Speaker Nancy Pelosi's office today at (202) 225-0100 and urge her to stand with the American people by giving the Audit the Fed bill full debate and a standalone vote on the House floor.
Click here for contact information for your representatives and senators and ask them to get behind Audit the Fed if they have not yet done so. If they have already cosponsored, tell them to push for a roll call vote on HR 1207 and S 604 on the bills' own merits.
Our movement has worked hard to bring transparency and accountability to one of the nation's most secretive institutions. Audit the Fed has received a bipartisan level of support that is very rare in politics today.
Together, we can see a comprehensive audit of the Federal Reserve signed into law, but it should not be accompanied by more of the same interventionist legislation that helped create the current crisis.
Bob - The Beagle Master
On your post Pat. I will simply wait and see if it comes to the floor. If it does, I will congratulate you, and if it doesn't I shall simply keep my mouth shut.
I still maintain that it is better to win with a sh!t head like McCain who would cause less trouble than to lose and get a communist a$$hole who is doing his best to tear down the entire economy and destroy the Constitution.
If he destroys everything that he is trying to destroy there will be little solace in having "voted your conscience". Our way of life will still be gone.
And I contend that McCain and Obumma are owned and operated by the same handlers. McCain would have been more subtle, knifing us in the dark, while narcissict Obumma is doing it all in the open and waking people up to the truth. Time for us to find a better way. My own suggestion is some real GOP candidates for mid term elections who can beat their CFR competitors in the primaries and stomp the stuffing out of the DemoRats in November.
Bob - The Beagle Master
Can we find enough good conservative candidates to run in 2010? The last thing we want to see is a bunch of "Country Club" Republicans elected. :protest:
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