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Guamsst
05-02-2011, 10:28
One of the rifles I picked up in Tulsa is marked with the odd looking biohazard around the # symbol. This denotes "Nippon special steel"

Does anyone here know the signifigance of this steel? What are it's properties? What makes it so "SPECIAL"?
Tom in N.J.
05-02-2011, 05:41
I few years back, on a whim, I bought a Jap 6.5 rifle with a wierd crest on the receiver. Turns out it is a Japanese training rifle, not for live ammo. It was made by Nippon Special Steel co. Here is a picture of the crest (middle in first photo) and overall.
Guamsst
05-03-2011, 12:51
That looks very similar. I believe any difference is just due to depth of the stamping. Where did you see the reference that Nippon Special Steel was a company?
Deano41
05-03-2011, 03:03
That looks very similar. I believe any difference is just due to depth of the stamping. Where did you see the reference that Nippon Special Steel was a company?

GSST, you might try posting your question on this website. They write the books.
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?52-Firearms-Of-The-Rising-Sun
In the meantime, don't try shooting it. We don't want to read about you in the papers.
jangle
05-04-2011, 04:51
One of the rifles I picked up in Tulsa is marked with the odd looking biohazard around the # symbol. This denotes "Nippon special steel"

Does anyone here know the signifigance of this steel? What are it's properties? What makes it so "SPECIAL"?

What you have it a fairly common smooth bore trainer that is modeled after a T-38 rifle. As Deano41 has already advised you, do not fire it. It was not meant to fire live ammo.

The logo on the receiver top is that of the "Nippon Special Steel Co." There is no significance of the company name and the properties of the steel in these trainers. Information on these and other trainers can be found in "Military Rifles of Japan" by Fred Honeycutt & Patt Anthony.
Guamsst
05-04-2011, 06:03
I definitely wasn't going to fire this or any of my trainers. I wouldn't call this one common though as you can find trainers all day long but ones with this stamp or the DO NOT FIRE kanji don't show up too often.

I had never seen the reference to Nippon Special Steel as a company. This clears up allot of my confusion as I couldn't figure out why they would bother with a special steel for an exploding training rifle.
Black Bart
06-25-2011, 08:17
Guamsst: Your discription and the meaning behind the unusual crest makes the steel special enough to get my attention now that it is clear. Thanks for the info, definately a must know for the novice collector.
Bart.
BOB LOUGHLIN
06-26-2011, 10:11
I've had one for several years. It is the best looking long gun in my collection. I was able to add a rounded blade bayonet to it last year and was surprised to find the trainers also were issued with trainer bayonets. Yes, it will go through a person, it just won't cut anyone. Any guess on the value of one of these with the schools name still readable on the stock ? TIA, Bob.
Guamsst
06-28-2011, 06:16
I have yet to see any training rifles with a Desirable marking worth extra money. I consider kanji as part of the condition value. If you can translate the Kanji and it has a conection to a special school, maybe you could raise the price a little.

Only training rifles I have seen worth more than $150-$200 are the childrens training rifles.