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Johnny P
07-07-2011, 09:14
This pistol was recently brought into the local gun shop. Manufacture date is 1890/91.
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Scott Wilson
07-08-2011, 04:57
Great pistol. The slashes between the month, day and year look like little cattle brands. Are the grip frame screws as nice as the screws that are visable in the photos?
Johnny P
07-08-2011, 06:17
Only one of the grip frame screws is slightly buggered. It is great to find an old gun with screw heads that are still sharp. The screws actually need to be removed and cleaned as they are very grimy, but I wouldn't want to take a chance on messing one of them up.
be me, I'd do an internet search on that name, check the Texas Ranger records etc, ya might get lucky. Real ivories will shrink a tad over time. Looks like a legit old using gun.
Best question is, how much do they want for it?
PS John, it might behoove ya to call Mr Holbrook on this one, there is a vague rumor that he might know something about Texas history/ law enforcement that might shine a light on her.
Johnny P
07-08-2011, 10:30
A Colt letter has been ordered, and that will be the basis of which way the search goes. In the 1970 time period I met Mr. Gaines de Graffenreid who was the curator of the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco, but he died about 1990. He would have been a great source of information.
randy langford
07-08-2011, 04:23
Drool on the keyboard.... Man that sure is nice
Love those giant sized photos. Great detail. 'Course I'll bet the guys on dial-up will still be cursing you next week. Nice old pistol.
Johnny P
07-09-2011, 02:42
Having lived with dial-up for several years before DSL became available I can sympathize with those that still have to use it, but something like this comes out of the woodwork so seldom it needed special treatment. Even the bore was surprisingly nice.
Johnny, those slash marks bear a Strong resemblance to the Commanche's word/mark for themselves, alot of the very old Texican cattle ranchers used it in their brands to pay homage/respect to a fearless enemy of days gone by. Like I said, Holbrook needs to be shown this pistol, John knows a thing or two bout such things...............
Again , How much?, if around than $3K, I'd say hit it if the wife agrees, maybe more sir.........
Or if the wife disagrees. It would definitely be worth a few temper tantrums.
Johnny P
07-10-2011, 07:36
Johnny, those slash marks bear a Strong resemblance to the Commanche's word/mark for themselves, alot of the very old Texican cattle ranchers used it in their brands to pay homage/respect to a fearless enemy of days gone by. Like I said, Holbrook needs to be shown this pistol, John knows a thing or two bout such things...............
Again , How much?, if around than $3K, I'd say hit it if the wife agrees, maybe more sir.........
Since the marks are in the date, I don't believe they are anything more than 7/21/'91.
Don't worry, while I never got very heavy into Colt SAA collecting, I collected enough to know my way around a SAA. A price hasn't been set as I advised the shop to wait and see what the Colt letter indicates as a starting point. It could be just a shipment to a hardware store, or to someone in Texas history. I help them out on things they aren't familiar with, and they let me see the good stuff first.
Johnny, those slash marks bear a Strong resemblance to the Commanche's word/mark for themselves, alot of the very old Texican cattle ranchers used it in their brands to pay homage/respect to a fearless enemy of days gone by. Like I said, Holbrook needs to be shown this pistol, John knows a thing or two bout such things...............
Again , How much?, if around than $3K, I'd say hit it if the wife agrees, maybe more sir.........
I saw that in The Outlaw Josie Wales. They used that brand too. I guess it got around. IMO, asking someone what they paid for an item is a little rude. Asking a second time after the first question isn't responded to is somewhat boorish.
I saw that in The Outlaw Josie Wales. They used that brand too. I guess it got around. IMO, asking someone what they paid for an item is a little rude. Asking a second time after the first question isn't responded to is somewhat boorish.
IMO kid, my offer to purchase that pistol is really quite none of your business, at all. At no point did John say he's interested in it, he likes 1911's & Walthers, Lugers, I like all the above & Colt 1873's & S&W mod 3's too. Still have a tad of stuff to trade John.
Nice pistol Johnny, thanks for showing us. When I first saw the name I thought "how did that gun get away from here?". But then I say the place and date. I knew a J.D.Clark who owned a feed store here.
Johnny P
07-12-2011, 06:42
Found information on a J. D. Clark who was a U.S. Deputy Marshal out of Fort Smith, commissioned on May 3, 1892, which also fits the time period, but don't have enough information yet.
randy langford
07-14-2011, 07:46
Johnny you found the same info I found using my Ancestry.com membership makes you wonder Also found a farmer by the same name around 1920 not to far from Tyler
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