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did jugs (p-47's) fly off carriers?
also, what about p-51's?
jrhead75
12-27-2009, 02:07
P-51's certainly...the Navy auditioned them early on. A quick google check turns up a video that purportedly show Jugs operating off of carriers in the Marianas.
So my answer is...yes.
snipershot1944
12-30-2009, 01:13
Fly off carriers, yes, perhaps. Landing on carriers, not likely.
I'd guess they were used as plane ferries.
all scale models from many years ago - should not be that difficult to I.D. the aircraft and country
Edward Horton
12-30-2009, 04:44
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On 23 June Manila Bay came under enemy air attack during refueling operations east of Saipan. Two fighter bombers attacked her from dead ahead, dropping four bombs which exploded wide to port. Intense anti-aircraft fire suppressed further attacks; and, as a precautionary and rather unusual move which Admiral Spruance later characterized as "commendable initiative", Manila Bay launched four of the Army P-47's she was ferrying to fly protective CAP until radar screens were clear of contacts
Edward Horton
12-30-2009, 04:54
Marine primary training aircraft :rolleyes:
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Edward Horton
12-30-2009, 05:04
Air Force COD emergency supply mission, bringing cake and ice cream (Pogy Bait) to deployed Marine Air Wing.
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Edward Horton
12-30-2009, 05:31
The Few the Proud
The Air Force Men in MAC ;) You Call We Haul :icon_salut:
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Military Airlift Command :rolleyes:
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I will make a fool of my self and guess.
1. Finland Brewster Buffalo
2. Curtis P36 Hawk, holland?
3. British Wysland (sp?)
4. British Bulfighter
Well I tried, Bob
Brewster Buffalo Finland
Curtiss H75 France
Westland Lysander Britain
Bolton Paul Defiant Britain
Thank you, my memory ain't what it used to be, but truth is I couldn't have done better 50 yr.s ago except maybe for the Lysander. RCS, beutiful scale models and thank you for stirring my memory cells.
Bob
John Kepler
01-01-2010, 05:33
did jugs (p-47's) fly off carriers?
Yes....off the Wasp IIRC during the "Torch" landings in North Africa.
also, what about p-51's?
The Mustang was DESIGNED as a carrier plane for the RAF Fleet Air Arm, so yes!
Edward Horton
01-01-2010, 01:58
Yes....off the Wasp IIRC during the "Torch" landings in North Africa.
The Mustang was DESIGNED as a carrier plane for the RAF Fleet Air Arm, so yes!
North American sold the Mustang to the British because they said they could build a faster aircraft than the P-40 which the British were going to buy. The Mustang was NEVER designed for naval service for any country.
Litt'le Lee
01-01-2010, 06:37
1.Brewster 239 Finish markings
2. Curtis P-36 Italy markings
3. Westland Lysander British markings
4. Boulton Paul Defiant MK 1New Zeland markings
Lee is correct except for #2 which is a Curtiss Hawk 75 of the 2nd Escadrille, Dakar Senegal with the vichy French markings.
The Boulton Paul Defiant F.Mk 1. is from the British 264 (F) Sqn Aug 1940
peterb632
01-02-2010, 09:29
When I was at College in the early 70's, I got talking to one of the (overage) security guards there. It turned out that during the war he was a rear gunner in the B.P. Defiant for a short time.
The interesting thing is that he told me that the Defiant was a Hawker Hurricane with a turret tacked on the back (it is not -totally seperate design). I did not contradict him but....I kept it in the back of my mind that the guys who were there did not always know everything, they also had their predjudices & misconceptions.
Peter (Burlington, Ontario)
Lee is correct except for #2 which is a Curtiss Hawk 75 of the 2nd Escadrille, Dakar Senegal with the vichy French markings.
The Boulton Paul Defiant F.Mk 1. is from the British 264 (F) Sqn Aug 1940
Seems I remember reading that when first encountered the Germans cozzied up nicely behind the Defiant ready to shoot down another Hurricane only to run into a battery of 4 mgs shooting back at them. :1948:
I had those same models as a kid..I especially loved the Lysander and the Brewster Buffalo...that particular Buffalo was in the markings of a Finnish ace if I remember correctly.
Army/Air Force planes can take off from carriers (Doolittle's B-25's being one example) but can't land. They have no arresting hooks and their structures are not strong enough. A Navy plane built to land on carriers has to be able to stand the force of a deck coming up to meet it, something land runways don't seem to do.
I once saw a film of a Navy jet and an AF jet being dropped from a crane, about 20 feet. The Navy plane bounced; the AF plane was totalled.
Jim
Rick the Librarian
01-03-2010, 04:11
P-47s were not lauched from carriers for operations in N. Africa - it was done (as described) in the Pacific in 1944. P-40 Warhawks were launched from a carrier for N. Africa.
Edward Horton
01-04-2010, 07:37
You are all too sober to even begin to be qualified to answer Goo’s question. :rolleyes:
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