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sid
05-16-2010, 01:54
I recently purchased 1000 rounds of .22 long rifle made by Armscor. I loaded it into my S&W Model 41. And guess what? It went bang but did not even have enough force to operate the slide. This happened with 10 rounds in a row! Before this I thought Remington Thunderbolt was truly lousy. But this stuff is absolutely worthless.

Gunner
05-16-2010, 01:59
Not only the .22 ammo is worthless. I purchased 500 bullets 158grs RN for my .357 Mag. They had differences in weight from 149grs to 162grs. Lousy!

Regards

Gunner

John Sukey
05-16-2010, 02:31
russian steel cased .22
Pakistani .303 Yes I know it's not .22

PhillipM
05-16-2010, 02:44
I hope you have a revolver or a manually operated .22 rifle to put that through. If it won't work in a Model 41, it is truly junk.

CTMC(ret)
05-16-2010, 04:19
Winchester T-22. It was the .22 ammo the Navy provided our marksmanship teams (you could also get Eley 10-X, if you were particularly blessed!). But this ammo was the pits - misfires in every box. We lost so many matches due to alibis that we used it only for practice and bought our own ammo for competition. Looking at the "Reviews" on MidwayUSA's page for T-22, it appears people are still experiencing those problems. We were using H/S Victor/Citations, S&W M41's, and Rugers...all had the same experiences.

John Kepler
05-16-2010, 06:46
The worst I ever had? Without even a close second.....Hansen (Yugoslav) .22 Target.....for those complainting about T-22...the Hansen made it look like Eley Tenex! Ruptured cases (leading to a blown extractor in my Anschutz!), duds, squibs.....and THAT was the good news! The bad news was that you couldn't hit a billboard with it at 50 feet when it didn't completely malfunction! Only ammo that I couldn't even get to run in a 10/22! Apparently somebody dropped an artillery "fire-mission" on the plant that made the crap sometime during the upheaval in Bosnia...and it is currently a large weed-filled crater, much to the benefit of the greater shooting public.

Oh....and most of you have NO idea how correct Mr. Sukey is about the Paki .303!

Dave Waits
05-17-2010, 07:16
Worst I've found is Aquila in any rendering. Bought a box of the target(500 round brick) and a brick of the high-speed. Had an average of one dud per five rounds in my HS Trophies with the target, lousy accuracy. The High-Speed wouldn't function in my 10/22 and that thing is a true ammo-slut. It would fire but didn't generate enough to cycle the action, every empty would stovepipe.
The Target wouldn't do any better than 2" in the Trophies, these two will shoot 1/2" groups off a bench at 25 yards with Tenex.

Pure Junk!!!

Rodd Knox
05-17-2010, 07:32
And I thought Remington Goldens were the worst. Was going to order some of the Aquila from the CMP but not after reading this thread.

Art
05-17-2010, 11:31
I've never had a problem with aguila, though it's loaded very light it has also been extremely accurate in my rifles. The only problem I've had with it is that the first two or three rounds (standard velocity) for some odd reason wouldn't cycle in autopistols but after that two or three rounds "warmed things up" it worked fine.

I've found a lot of foreign standard velocity is loaded VERY light.

The only real problem I've had with anybody's .22 was when I was running Remington Yellow Jackets through my Browning T-Bolt. I started getting a different sounding report on nearly every round, from BANG to pop. They all cleared the muzzle and went downrange but I quit using the stuff and have never bought another Remington .22 round. I shoot Aguila, and CCI exclusively in my rimfires and which I shoot depends on the application.

Tanasi
05-17-2010, 01:05
Years ago when I first started shooting bullseye pistol I test several brands and types and found that Win T-22 grouped the best but it was the least reliable. I was bequeethed a case of Rem T-22 maypop and it's totally unreliable and has been been regulated to plinking ammo for the kids. I've had the best luck with CCI-SV and Mini-Mags.

Dan Wilson
05-18-2010, 03:31
Ouch
You guys are killing me!!
I have a buttload of Russian steel cased 22, a can of paki .303 AND Aquilla 30 carbine all waiting to be fired:eek:

Gyrene
05-18-2010, 08:38
According to the only real authorative study done on .22 Cal, "A Rifleman's Guide to Rimfire Ammunition" by Steven Boelter, Aguila use Eley priming technology (which they pay for), and Eley manufacturig equipment, installed by Eley (or Eley contractors). Many of their ammunition boxes have the Eley name on them.

Short of using Eley, I find that Aguila gives the closest approximation to the IDEAL .22 Cal. ammunition. I use it in my S&W Model 41, several S&W .22 Cal revolvers, my sons' 10/22, and my Winchester Model 52's (old .22 Cal target rifles). I have not had a problem with either Eley or Aguila; never had a misfire with them. Working at the rifle range, I see a tremendous mount of .22 Cal ammunition fired and the best is usually Eley, with Aguila close and Wolfe target coming in third. People do complain when they have problem, and the only complaint I have heard about Aguila is the same as for Eley and Wolfe: TOO Expensive!

Gyrene VSM - OFC

semper fi

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Gunner
05-18-2010, 09:15
Last week i shot my Anschütz with the Lapua Trainer Ammo. It is an really good ammo! At 50yards a little bigger hole with ten rounds an at 100 yards its no problem to holdthe bull with ten rounds. Cheap ammo and good.

Regards

Gunner

Johnny in Texas
05-18-2010, 09:15
I bought Win T-22 from CMP and it has shot very well for me in target bolt guns and my 1911A1 .22 ACE I like Aguila Subsonic yellow/purple box in bolt rifles it is quiet and accurate. Worst I ever shot was the winchester wildcat after 1 box it looked like you put gray sand in the action. I have not had misfire issues with any .22 ammo from bad priming.

Dave Waits
05-18-2010, 10:27
According to the only real authorative study done on .22 Cal, "A Rifleman's Guide to Rimfire Ammunition" by Steven Boelter, Aguila use Eley priming technology (which they pay for), and Eley manufacturig equipment, installed by Eley (or Eley contractors). Many of their ammunition boxes have the Eley name on them.

Short of using Eley, I find that Aguila gives the closest approximation to the IDEAL .22 Cal. ammunition. I use it in my S&W Model 41, several S&W .22 Cal revolvers, my sons' 10/22, and my Winchester Model 52's (old .22 Cal target rifles). I have not had a problem with either Eley or Aguila; never had a misfire with them. Working at the rifle range, I see a tremendous mount of .22 Cal ammunition fired and the best is usually Eley, with Aguila close and Wolfe target coming in third. People do complain when they have problem, and the only complaint I have heard about Aguila is the same as for Eley and Wolfe: TOO Expensive!

Gyrene VSM - OFC

semper fi

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Well, then someone needs to prod their Quality Control Dept. I ended up destroying what was left from my experience with it. Guys I shoot with knew about it so selling it was out. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. As for too expensive, I paid fifteen dollars each for both bricks. I don't call that expensive at all, AAMOF, it's cheap.

There's another real cheap, sorry ammo out there too, Colibri. It's not worth what it's made of.

JB White
05-18-2010, 10:50
I've had great results using Armscor ammo in NATO calibers. (223, 308, 45acp) If fact, the 45acp was great!
Aguila I've only used in 32 S&W Long and found it to be very accurate.

I think the very worst 22 LR ammo I ever used was the old Winchester Expediters. I did have a bad (terrible!) batch of Remingtons one time that I bought on clearance. Poor accuracy and three rim blowouts. Glad I didn't buy a lot of it as a partial brick was all that was left at that shop....who went out of business shortly afterward.

lyman
05-19-2010, 03:09
i had a couple boxes of remington subsonics, that were anything but,
terrible consistanty

Dad picked up a few boxes from an ROTC buddy back in the 80's, some generic white box they were using in the schools,
when it went off it shot good, too many duds tho,

Art
05-19-2010, 06:08
It's interesting to hear the mixed reviews of Aguila .22 ammunition. The standard velocity stuff I got from the CMP is surefire and very accurate though from what I've read here folks results do seem to vary......

paulo57509
05-19-2010, 10:06
I had a couple of boxes of Remington Hi-Velocities that had quite a few duds. .22LR are usually pretty reliable. :icon_scratch:

Teddydog
07-20-2010, 09:47
Old thread...I know. I shot Standard Pistol on the U.C. Davis ROTC team in college 89-91. We were issued the generic-looking white box ammo. It was in fact Winchester target ammo and it worked OK. We competed against U. Nevada Reno all the time and THEY shot Eley Ten-X due to their deep-pockets. We traded them our GI .22 at the rate of a CASE (5000 rounds) for a BRICK (500).

I shot my personal High Standard Victor in competition and used my own ammo, usually. Its favorite was the Hansen Standard Velocity (not marked target or match). Never had any problems with duds or flyers. I DID have trouble with one of my magazines, though, and ran out of "Alibis" in one Sectional match that caused me to miss firing one round. I missed placing and going to Regionals by 3 points (any hit on a target would have given me at least 7 points and I NEVER missed scoring on targets). I was No 43 in the nation that year.

Rob

Terry_b
08-02-2010, 09:37
Some years ago i bought a brick of the Aguila super max rimfire. Every couple rounds would misfire, and often not fire even on a second strike. This happened on all the 22 rifles and pistols. the brick is still in my loading cabinet, don't know how i want to get rid of it. sure can't shoot it up

mercman
08-03-2010, 03:37
I've had very good experiences with both the Aquila std velocity and target ammo that I got from the CMP. I've shot it from my 10-22, S&W 15-22, Spikes' .22 LR conversion for my AR15's and the my Ruger Mk1 pistols. It does shoot slightly lower than the Federal red box that I have but is more consistant. My worst ammo was the Winchester X-pert HP ammo that I shot. Jammed and was so so accuracy.

Timberwolf
08-05-2010, 06:58
I found that some of the Winchester (Wally World purchase) was crap.

Never had a problem, save a few misfires, with cheap Federal.

One of the better .22 ammo is CCI Blazer. I have never had a misfire from my Rugerr Mk II but I haven't tried it in my Ruger 10/22 yet.

jjrothWA
08-06-2010, 08:56
Avoid any old REMINGTON Target ammo, can't sat about the current stock.
Old Winchester T-22 was overlubed that cases would stay in chambers.
Currently use the Aquila Super Extra .22LR std. velocity, some mis-fre that go boom when rotated and re-fired.