Legal to ship 03 parts to New Zealand

[Griff Murphey]

Roy wants to know if this is legal undrr U.S. Law; he used to post a lot on the old forum. I think he has someone in Va. who will ship to him. He needs an A3 barrel and a PG stock for his faux A-4 project. I seem to recall some threads stating that it was illegal these days to export "military" gun parts. Does that apply to a derivative of a 107 y.o. "weapons system?"

Second part of this question, is it legal for him to receive these in N.Z.?

[kollector03]

Griff,

Technically export of parts for US Martial arms regardless of age requires a permit from the Commerce Defense. I can't remember the name of the law, but it should be pretty easy to Google it up.

Basically if it is a part from a weapon used by the US military, exportation can only be done under permission from the Commerce Department.

Don

[chuckindenver]

check the customs web site...shipping any gunparts other then a stock to Europe is not legal.

[Griff Murphey]

Customs website refers you to the State Dept. Website, which has no provisions for answering questions, and no gun-related options. Of course, it's not like I'm any good on a computer.

[Karl]

Roy wants to know if this is legal undrr U.S. Law; he used to post a lot on the old forum. I think he has someone in Va. who will ship to him. He needs an A3 barrel and a PG stock for his faux A-4 project. I seem to recall some threads stating that it was illegal these days to export "military" gun parts. Does that apply to a derivative of a 107 y.o. "weapons system?"

Second part of this question, is it legal for him to receive these in N.Z.?

There are two applicable U.S. codes to deal with in the export of U.S. Military equipment and parts. The first is the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (US Department of State - ITAR), and the second is the Commerce Control List (US Department of the Treasury - CCL). These codes specify what items need an export license BEFORE they can be shipped out of the U.S. These codes are NOT suggestions, recommendations, or guidelines, they are the law, and you can be sent to prison and/or fined for violating them.

ITAR:


http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar_official.html

CCL:

http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/pdf/indexccl.pdf

If you doubt me on this, pls contact the good folks at the Department of State, ITAR desk (listed on their website), and they can help you decide if it's legal, or not. Be very specific in what you are asking, "I want to ship a (blank - fill in the item) to a guy in New Zealand, can I do this legally?" They will give you good guidance. HTH, Karl

[Karl]

On May 20, 2008, the Department of Justice announced that a federal grand jury returned an 18 count indictment charging J. Reece Roth, a professor emeritus who headed University of Tennessee's Plasma Sciences Lab, and Atmospheric Glow Technologies, Inc. (AGT), a Knoxville-based company Roth helped found, of conspiring to defraud the U.S. Air Force and disclose restricted U.S. military data about unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) or "drones" to foreign nationals without first obtaining the required U.S. government license or approval. Graduate students from China and Iran are alleged to have been given unfettered access to controlled technology.

Roth, who is 70 and now retired, was charged with one count of conspiracy to defraud the U.S. Air Force and violate the Arms Export Control Act (AECA); 15 counts of violating the AECA; and one count of wire fraud for defrauding the University of Tennessee. AGT is charged in the indictment with one count of conspiracy to defraud the U.S. Air Force and violate the AECA and 10 counts of violating the AECA.

The DOJ announcement states that:

"According to the indictment, between January 2004 and May 2006, Roth and AGT engaged in a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. Air Force and transmit export-controlled technical data related to a restricted U.S. Air Force contract to develop plasma actuators for a munitions-type UAV, or “drone,” to one or more foreign nationals, including a citizen from the People’s Republic of China. The Chinese national was a graduate research assistant at the University of Tennessee. The University of Tennessee was victimized by the conspirators and cooperated throughout with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) led federal investigation."

United States Attorney Russ Dedrick said, “The protection of United States technology is a continuing priority of the Department of Justice and this District. Whenever restricted U.S. military data is illegally disclosed to foreign nationals, America’s security is put at risk. Today’s indictment demonstrates just how seriously we view such violations.”

Violations of the AECA carry a maximum possibly penalty of 10 years imprisonment and a $1 million fine. Wire fraud carries a maximum penalty of 20 years imprisonment and a $250,000 fine and conspiracy carries a maximum penalty of 5 years imprisonment and a $250,000 fine.

[Griff Murphey]

I didn't know they used 03A3 barrels or "C" stocks on UAV's....

Seriously, tho, your point is taken, and thanks for the info. I will advise him he needs to have his shipper make the appropriate inquiries before sending. BTW the shipper is/will not be/never was going to be me.

[kollector03]

Karl,

ITAR....Thanks for the link. I had forgotten the proper name on that piece of legislation. I typically will not ship US Martial items overseas, period.

My primary profession is in the Automotive Industry, specifically the Transmission and Driveline industry. One of my customers deals exclusively with the Humvee platform and ITAR applies to US mfg parts that were within US Government inventory as well.

Be very, very careful of what you choose to export.

Don