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    Default Evil Black Rifle

    I have never wanted one of these. Living in a small town where everyone knows you and where you live I really didn't want to be seen with one.

    Where the Black rifle might fit into my scheme of thing is this. Being to lame to run and to old to fight the rifle might get a little respect if I ever had to defend myself or family.

    Have better firearms for defence but thought the Black Rifle might get a younger person attention quicker and stop a altercation before it starts.

    In short better bluffing power.

    Any ideas on this subject?

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    A nickel finished or stainless steel big bore handgun gets attention just as quick and it's easier to get into action. Don't worry about showing any gun though. If you have reason to pull it you have reason to use it. If they don't react and stop in a milisecond...boom.
    All to often giving the bad guy a second chance is their second chance to get the drop on you!

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    Better to think of it as a better deterent power, not a bluffing power. That would indicate that your mindset is to bluff and not follow up with necesary force if and when you have to. What I'm saying is that if you go into a situation with the intention of "bluffing", you're actually putting yourself and your loved ones in danger. You'll hesitate. You'll reconsider. You'll send the message that you realy don't mean it when you want to send the message that you really DO mean to use force. It isn't easy to just DO it. It sometimes takes being involved in several situations where you confront hostile intentions towards you and yours before you have ingrained in your mind and instincts the Cold will to follow through with using absolute dominating force to STOP the situation. Bluffing will get you killed. They'll be able to see it in your face and hear it in your voice. "dont take another step or I'll shoot" "I really mean it...I'll shoot!" "Please don't take another step!" " I don't want to hurt you but I will if I have to!" "I'm not kidding!" You're allready as good as dead if you have to say any of these things. Just my opinion
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    I too was slow to respect the black rifle but that has all changed. I wouldn't be without at least a couple of them now.I don't know of any other rifle that has as many options made for it and .556 and .308 will tackle most anything out there.
    Reseach what your needs are and buy from that.

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    heres your cure.
    i for one dont own an AR variant, after working on them for years, i dont feel the need for one..
    but a warm and fuzzy AR, wont that make your town feel good about those evil Black guns lol.

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    Default I Got One...

    But I wouldn't have it as my only weapon.

    If TSHTF, I first grab a pistol, then I like a Carbine for it's easy mag change, in house capability. But if I had to grab something for a lot of firepower at moderate to longer distances, it would be the AR-15 and a handful of full mags. A bit lighter than nabbing a Garand and a can of 30.06.

    As for shooting on the range, a rifle with some wood on it is more practical, more military feeling. More like the good old days.
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    My only objection to a rifle is it's a bit difficult to carry concealed

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    That pink rifle might send the wrong message but on the other hand it would double my chances of getting a date. Already have a little dog that looks like Toto so my manhood may be in question.

    In a small community you have to fly below the radar. You don't talk about guns or what you have. It's considered bad form if you go shooting with a friend and talk about his firearms.

    Just better to have more than you show.

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    After being a participant in the First South-East Asian Wargames(Second-place) and another 20 in the Air Guard as a Small-Arms Spec(7-level) any AR platform in 5.56 is the last thing I would grab if range were any issue at all. AAMOF, any AR platform in 5.56 would not be even my third or fourth choice. Any thing over 100 yards where anything but concealment was involved, I would go to one of my Main Battle-rifles.

    It's not a problem of being able to hit with the platform it's the fact that you have to do it multiple times to achieve any telling effect at any range past 100 yards. I've learned the hard way not to trust my life to a .22.

    If I have time to get to a rifle, they'll deal with one of my Garands or my M1A or my FAL.
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    I disagree somewhat. Granted, you want to be very clear as to when you will use the weapon--and then do it. Also, the 5.56 is not a .375 H&H, but at interpersonal distances I certainly don't want to get shot with it.

    In my LEO days I bought a CAR-15 in the mid-80s; we were doing a lot of raids, etc. A high intimidation factor makes BGs somewhat more thoughtful and less likely to do something stupid that will involve a lot of paperwork. A cheap trick, if you will--but what the hay. Call it applied psychology.

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