Russian/Soviet SMG and M1944

[c47flew]

Just acquired two Russian/Soviet weapons from my wife's boss. A Mosin-Nagant M1944 carbine rifle in excellent condition and a Pistol Pulyemet Shpagin PPsh-41 sub-machine gun in excellent condition. They were both passed down from his grandfather who served in WW2 and Korea, brought them home as spoils of war. grandson not the least interested in history or firearms so he gave them to me. I have some Garands and M1903's, these are my first Russian/Soviet arms. I know the M1944 was the last Nagant made and those are common and reasonably priced, How about the SMG? It has drum magazine and original canvas sling, heavy SOB too! Any and all information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[Tuna]

Well the first question to you is, do you know if the subgun is registered and if so have you transfered it to youself? If it isn't registered then you cannot own it as it's prohibited from being registered and by having it you can get a free vacation for 10 years in a federal vacation spot and a huge fine.

[c47flew]

Tuna, thank you for your concern about the legal issues, I have all that taken care of. While I may be a junior member to this forum I am a retired 30 year U. S. Navy frogman. Just wanted some info about my firearms.

[PhillipM]

Tuna, thank you for your concern about the legal issues, I have all that taken care of. While I may be a junior member to this forum I am a retired 30 year U. S. Navy frogman. Just wanted some info about my firearms.

I'm glad that's taken care of. Sometimes when new people post something like that without posting verification of a weapons legality it throws up red flags and makes us think it's an ATF type hoping to set up a way to entrap someone.

Now that that's out of the way, congrats on a rare firearm over here. I'd love to know the story of how it was captured. A friend in the 101'st brought back a Russian weapon, or I should say a weapon confiscated from a Russian, a bolt action 22. Not quite as sexy as what you have.

Check out http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/semiforum.cgi and http://www.subguns.com/ they may have more info.

[Tuna]

Now to the second question. Are you going to be able to afford the huge amount of ammo that big drum magazine is going to eat. Might just eat you out of house and home. But what a way to go and loving it.

[Guamsst]

according to the military firearms price guide,
Pre 1968 transferable guns $17,500 - $25,000
Pre 1986 reweld or new reciever $12,000 - $15,000

Take those numbers as negotiable by quiet a bit. Some of the prices listed in that book are general guesses, the market fluctuates and the economy is booming with Obama getting us below 9% unemployment. So, I'll offer you $2,000 and I'll cover the tax stamp too. Ofcourse that offer is based on me being broke all the time and has nothing to do with reality.

[Guamsst]

I'd love to know the story of how it was captured.

I'd bet a ham sandwich it was picked up off a dead Chinee in KOrea

[c47flew]

Thanks for the info guys. Tuna, AMEN to that brother. Hoping to find a serviceable banana clip for it to minimize my hunger for putting rounds down range.
Guamsst, you sir have your ham sandwich. It WAS taken off a dead Chinaman in Korea (ventilation courtesy of an M1 Garand). The SMG was manufactured in 1949, excellent condition, slight surface rust and a small bullet crease on the outer edge of the drum. I am going to break it down and fine-tooth comb it before any of my lusty desires come true. I will also provide some pic's.

[da gimp]

congrats sir, a Korean/ RVN capture PPsh, heck for that matter any transferrable PPsh is not common, may you enjoy the heck out of it. 2nd piece of advice buy a Dillon 550 or 650 to reload all the ammo you'll need..............Midway USA has/had brass & dies for it..............

[Sean P Gilday]

I had a PPsh-41 in Iraq, one thing you may find is drums can be finicky. I went through a pile of them to find ones which fit properly(sometimes need a file) to get 10 which were reliable enough to keep in the 1114 for emergency use. The Buffer (Boot leather) may need softening or replacing. I soaked mine for a few days in baseball glove oil.