Navy Arms Co 45LC

[LMDawson]

I have sitting in front of me a Navy Arms Co Union City NJ Made in Italy S.A.A. Cal .45LC. I am having a hard time finding out much about it on line. I am very interested in finding a list of S/N's so that I may find out when she was made. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I will try and post a picture sometime soon if you would like to see it.

Thanks so much
Best Regards
Lisa

[Art]

As I recall these revolvers were made for Navy Arms by several foreign contractors, especially in Italy. Therefore the quality can run from excellent to just so-so depending on the manufacturer and when it was made.

Knowing which manufacturer made the revolver would help.

Good luck

[musculus]

FIRST, it isn't a .45 "Long" Colt. It's just .45 COLT.

SECOND, the pistol was made by one of several italian manufacturers:

Uberti
Armi San Marco/Palo
Pietta
Pedersoli
etc.

Look around, under the barrel, etc. the initials (usually beside the importer's initials) will usually ID the maker. If not, the proof marks may (or may not) do so

Bottom line, it doesn't matter much WHO made the pistol. No collector value whatsoever. Just shoot it.

[carym2a]

.45 Colt is not .45 Long Colt , .45 Colt is 1.1" and .45 Long Colt is 1.285 , good luck finding ammo in .45 short Colt or .45 Colt as you have stated.

Cary

[musculus]

.45 Colt is not .45 Long Colt , .45 Colt is 1.1" and .45 Long Colt is 1.285 , good luck finding ammo in .45 short Colt or .45 Colt as you have stated.

Cary

There was a .45 Schofield (aka .45 Smith and WEsson, aka .45 Colt Government--a very rare marking) that is 1.1" inches.

There have NEVER (EVER) been a .45 Colt cartridge with a headstamp on it that says "Long."
THere has NEVER been a box of ammo/cartridge box marked "45 Long" or ".45 Long Colt"

Otherwise, it's seems pretty clear that you don't have a clue...

[carym2a]

There was a .45 Schofield (aka .45 Smith and WEsson, aka .45 Colt Government--a very rare marking) that is 1.1" inches.

There have NEVER (EVER) been a .45 Colt cartridge with a headstamp on it that says "Long."
THere has NEVER been a box of ammo/cartridge box marked "45 Long" or ".45 Long Colt"

Otherwise, it's seems pretty clear that you don't have a clue...

Don't have a clue , Maybe you need to set back and look at your self just for a minute..while your at it check your head space and throat erosion sure sounds like they are out of spec.... Now really, how helpful have you been ? Your type and flame Caliber I have seen before here and other forums, they are not worth argument , you just keep it up

[Wreck Checker]

There was a .45 Schofield (aka .45 Smith and WEsson, aka .45 Colt Government--a very rare marking) that is 1.1" inches.

There have NEVER (EVER) been a .45 Colt cartridge with a headstamp on it that says "Long."
THere has NEVER been a box of ammo/cartridge box marked "45 Long" or ".45 Long Colt"

Otherwise, it's seems pretty clear that you don't have a clue...

"Never" is a pretty strong statement; a person should have a clue before using it.
I believe that Mr. Wiley Clapp definitifly answered this subject in "Guns & Ammo" January 1991 page 17.

[LMDawson]

Have discovered that it is an Uberti 1873 Cattleman. Can't wait to shoot her. Thanks for the help.
Best Regards
Lisa

[musculus]

unless you reload already, you will quickly discover that shooting a .45 Colt is (VERY) expensive. Factory ammo starts at 35 dollars per box of 50. The good news is that big straight-walled pistol cases are easy to reload. frankly, you could get a Lee Hand Press, Auto-Prime, and a set of Carbide Dies and bring your costs down to about 7 or 8 dollars per box easily.

[Johnny P]

Correct. The original Colt SAA revolver used by the military shot the equivalent of the .45 Colt cartridge. When the army also purchased the S&W Schofield it shot a shorter .45 round, so the military standardized on the shorter round for both pistols. This shorter round was loaded up until the WWII period, and was sold as the .45 S&W. There never was a .45 Short Colt, but there was a .32 Short and .32 Long Colt, a .38 Short and .38 Long Colt, and a .41 Short and .41 Long Colt.

Where the ".45 Long Colt" got started I have no idea, but it has been used for so long that most people incorrectly call it by that name, and even ammunition sellers list it as .45 Long Colt.

By the way, nice ammo boxes.

Colt made the Super .38 pistol, but the ammunition was called .38 Super Auto since there was already a .38 Auto cartridge. Over the years the Super .38 Colt pistol became the .38 Super.