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Thread: Has Dick told u guys about shooting VC with a .45 Revolver?

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    Default Has Dick told u guys about shooting VC with a .45 Revolver?

    At least, I seem to recall that from the Columbia Conference. Maybe it was with a 1911, tho, I remember that he was using some heavier than normal swc lead bullet reload, at least.

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    No but it sounds like a story.

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    I think this may be the story you are referring to?

    http://www.jouster.com/sea_stories/trigger_squeeze.pdf

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    Since I was stuck with an M9 when we went to Somalia, I bought and brought three boxes of Silver Bullets since we had good intel there were werewolves over there. We passed them out when needed, but none of us ever had to use them.

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    you should have just dipped regular bullets in bacon fat for lube! then publicized that fact!
    Of course, I'm sure "our fearless righteous leaders" would not condone that since it is so not P.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former Cav View Post
    you should have just dipped regular bullets in bacon fat for lube! then publicized that fact!
    Of course, I'm sure "our fearless righteous leaders" would not condone that since it is so not P.C.
    That goes back to the beginnings of an uprising/mutiny in the British Army when they issued Muzzle Loading Enfields to the Native Troops in India. Word got around the cartridges used PIG fat/tallow and it caused some serious problems before they got the word out the lube was mutton tallow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Fisher View Post
    That goes back to the beginnings of an uprising/mutiny in the British Army when they issued Muzzle Loading Enfields to the Native Troops in India. Word got around the cartridges used PIG fat/tallow and it caused some serious problems before they got the word out the lube was mutton tallow.
    Actually, the Sepoys were both Muslim and Hindu troops. The East India Company told the Muslim troops that the cartridges were coated in cow fat (moisture barrier) and they told the Hindu troops that the cartridges were coated in pig fat. When the Muslim and Hindu troops compared notes, they mutinied, which turned into a general anti-British uprising. Once the uprising was suppressed, the British government took over direct control of India from the East India Company.

    As for dipping bullets in pig fat, we did that against the Moros in the Philippines. I think doing it today would be frowned on not so much because of "political correctness," but because it runs against our counter insurgency strategy. Hard to "win hearts and minds" if you are offending the local populations religion - just gives the bad guys a recruitment tool. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld didn't issue the Israeli made ammo we were purchasing to troops in Iraq for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEA View Post
    Actually, the Sepoys were both Muslim and Hindu troops. The East India Company told the Muslim troops that the cartridges were coated in cow fat (moisture barrier) and they told the Hindu troops that the cartridges were coated in pig fat. When the Muslim and Hindu troops compared notes, they mutinied, which turned into a general anti-British uprising. Once the uprising was suppressed, the British government took over direct control of India from the East India Company.

    As for dipping bullets in pig fat, we did that against the Moros in the Philippines. I think doing it today would be frowned on not so much because of "political correctness," but because it runs against our counter insurgency strategy. Hard to "win hearts and minds" if you are offending the local populations religion - just gives the bad guys a recruitment tool. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld didn't issue the Israeli made ammo we were purchasing to troops in Iraq for the same reason.
    Yes, when the word got around the British used Mutton Tallow, it did not go against reliigious tenets of either Hindu's or Muslims. Actually for the British, Mutton Tallow was MUCH easier to come by than either pig or beef tallow and that's why they had been using it to begin with. It was a conincidence it did not go against Hindu or Muslim tenets, rather than something done later to not upset them.

    I am not so sure about the stories of U.S. Soldiers dipping their rifle bullets in pig fat during the Moro Insurection. While it MAY have been done in a few isolated incidences, it was not something generally done as it could really have hurt accuracy.

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    how you figure that? [It'd be burned off in a flash at ignition of the rd.[/I]

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonna View Post
    how you figure that? [It'd be burned off in a flash at ignition of the rd.[/I]
    It would not have been "burned off" around the diameter of the bullet nor in the front of the bullet. ALSO, it would have caused dust, sand and other foreign "junk" to get stuck to the bullets. Yes, in a bolt action rifle it is easy to chamber a cartridge with sand stuck to the bullet and will act like lapping compound in the barrel and/or score the barrel on down the bore. Sand and other foreign matter stuck to even the front of the bullets would migrate to scoring or wearing out the bore during shooting.
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