I'm looking for a photo one of you posted, of a New York regiment going to war

[Louis of PA]

You posted it on the old Jouster forum. It was a great old photo from, I believe, 1898, and showed the regiment marching. Their hats were a light color, and I'm trying to determine which vintage those hats were.

Thanks much,
Louis of PA

[jnz]

Could have been me. The marching pic was taken in Tampa, 1898 and the standing around pic was taken either during or right after the Great Yanko Spanko War of 1898.

[jnz]

Group pic: Co. B, 71st NY, Capt. William Livingston Hazen commanding. Other two are Camp Black, L.I. Note deployment of rod bayonets.

[jnz]

First pic: 71st on San Juan Hill, 1898. Note the famous blockhouse in the back and the Model 1888 rifles, apparently with front sight protectors. Pic two: Pvt. John Jeffrey, Co. B, 71st Reg. NYV. Jeffrey was wounded in the hip by a Mauser bullet and walked hunched over for the rest of his life. Even though he was disabled, he rose to a high position in the U.S. Customs Service. His war record helped get him that job.

[jnz]

A letter to Clifton Brown, Co. M, 71st Regt. from his young niece. Brown attended Cornell University and was scheduled to graduate in 1900. He was killed on San Juan Hill, July 1, 1898.

[Louis of PA]

The photo was taken in the U.S. and shows bystanders seeing the marching troops off. I'm trying to determine if their campaign hats were model of 1880 or of 1898, and if there is really any difference between the two models.

Thanks much for posting such interesting photos.

Louis of PA

[Maury Krupp]

The photo was taken in the U.S. and shows bystanders seeing the marching troops off. I'm trying to determine if their campaign hats were model of 1880 or of 1898, and if there is really any difference between the two models.

FWIW, I downloaded a pamphlet from
http://www.history.army.mil/html/mus...survey_uwa.pdf and it says there aren't any such things as 1880 or 1898 campaign hats.

The 1876 was black.

The 1883 changed the color to drab and had a brass circular vent on each side of the crown.

The 1889 replaced the brass vent with a "snowflake" pattern of punched holes.

The pamphlet also has a pic of a NY National Guardsman from around 1896 wearing what appears to be an 1883 hat.

Maury

[5MadFarmers]

1876 also had vents.

1876 was velvet with the two later editions being "fur."