Organic Foods vs Big Farm Foods

[Marine A5 Sniper]

I have no idea who produces these crappy "public interest" programs on PBS TV, but I just watched one on organically grown foods which was filled with utter nonsense. They made the claim that if you ate organically grown foods you would feel better and be healthier. That's crap, pure and simple. Your body can't tell the difference between a protein from an "organically" grown food from one that comes from a big farm that uses commercial fertilizers. The plants themselves can't determine the origin of their NPK (nitrogen, phosphorous, and potassium), whether it be from cow manure or commercial fertilizer (which has a huge percentage of human waste in it these days). Didn't any of the present day people take chemistry? Do they think about what they hear on TV?

What is the purpose of this kind of "green" garbage info anyway? Do the greenies really believe we can feed America with only "organically" grown foodstuffs? If they do, they are dumber than dirt. By the way, it is all organically grown, unless one knows another way to do it - like "poof"!

By the way, did you know that a McDonald's Big Mac meal comes primarily from corn? A soft drink has more corn in it than anything else but water - by far. The bun is made from corn, the meat is grown on corn (and antibiotics to compensate for the high corn content of the feed), and the French fires are cooked in corn oil (source of most of the calories in FF's). The sauce is mostly corn products. So, enjoy your corn at McDonalds.

By the way, do you now understand why making ethanol from corn drives up the price of food? Stupid is as stupid does.

jt

[da gimp]

So says our resident spokesman for the American Petroleum Institute & the Natural Gas Industry which is scared chitless that the USA will go the way of Brazil & run 100% of their vehicles on ethanol & biodiesel........& Brazils industry & vehicles do just fine & have for 12 years or so........

Again the only corn & soybeans that is used in ethanol & biodiesel production is that surplus that the USA used to give away free every year to China, Pakistan, India, Mexico, Iran etcetc etc & who then had riots denouncing the Great Satan.........

[dogtag]

A few miles from where I live they just opened a huge "Good Earth Foods" store.
They spent almost a year renovating a closed supermarket, which must have
cost a bundle. The moment it opened, the parking lot filled up with teeny-weeny
"Smart Cars" bicycles and Volvos. It's been crowded ever since. I'd like to go in
just for a look see, but there's never a parking space.
Of course, you have to understand, I live in Marin County where everyone but me
is rich, stupid and smells of tofu !

[JohnF]

I live in Marin County where everyone but me
is rich, stupid and smells of tofu !

You live in Marin County……………………!!!!

Are you up to date on your vaccinations?? According to the CDC in Atlanta, Marin County has the highest rate of personality disorder disease known as liberalism in the US. Watch your back and keep safe.

[Marine A5 Sniper]

So says our resident spokesman for the American Petroleum Institute & the Natural Gas Industry which is scared chitless that the USA will go the way of Brazil & run 100% of their vehicles on ethanol & biodiesel........& Brazils industry & vehicles do just fine & have for 12 years or so........

Again the only corn & soybeans that is used in ethanol & biodiesel production is that surplus that the USA used to give away free every year to China, Pakistan, India, Mexico, Iran etcetc etc & who then had riots denouncing the Great Satan.........

OK, gimp. I swear you say these things to get my goat:-). We are the largest importer of corn in the world - by far. We are also the largest exporter - by far. I don't think we are giving away corn these days. The ethanol industry will penalize you for substandard corn, if they take it. There is NO surplus.

By the way, if 100% of our farmers grew nothing but corn, it wouldn't be sufficient to produce enough ethanol for the US to go 100% ethanol. By the way, Brazil makes their ethanol from a waste product that does not, and will not, exist in the USA. Brazil still uses a lot of gasoline - don't think they have nothing but ethanol.

jt

PS
If you want to know how we can be both the largest importer and the largest exporter of corn, think "The Regulators", and I don't mean those in Washington.

[RED]

No it wasn't, not even close in fact! The 1811-1812 New Madrid quakes have been estimated in the 7.7 range

Well I'll have to give this round to da gimp! I don't think there is much argument among most people that the New Madrid quakes were the most damaging ever in the CONUS during recorded history. The creation of Reelfoot Lake and the 5+ mile sand boil down by Hayti are evidence of the intensity of the quakes which many geologists (prior to 2003) rated as high as 8.8 on Richter. Bells were rung by the quake as far away as Boston and were felt as far away as Ontario. The thing that is different about the New Madrid fault, is the sedimentry nature of the soils above the fault tend to transfer the forces released by the quakes further than areas with more igneous rock content.

The USGS says in a Jan. 13, 2003 report: "The new forecasts estimate a 7 to 10 percent chance, in the next 50 years, of a repeat of a major earthquake like those that occurred in 1811-1812, which likely had magnitudes of between 7.5 and 8.0. (and) There is a 25 to 40 percent chance, in a 50-year time span, of a magnitude 6.0 or greater earthquake."

In either case the disruptions of a 6.0 - 8-0 quake would cause a economic disaster that could well exceed any comparable quake on the San Andreas Fault.

Where da gimp is off is the effects would likely be oriented generally SW to NE along the Ohio River Valley and not have much chance of hurting the Callaway Nuclear Plant

[k arga]

da gimp, would you please post your figures on your statment, i am interested to see how they work out

[Art]

Organic food is mostly an expensive luxury for rich enviro nuts. It's the nutritional equivalent of a Chevy Volt.

[JBinIll]

Organic food is mostly an expensive luxury for rich enviro nuts. It's the nutritional equivalent of a Chevy Volt.

Yep,and if things were done like they envision we'd all be lining up for our daily ration of Soylent Green.

[PhillipM]

Years ago a friend was farming some cotton and had three little short rows that wouldn't make much anyway so he decided no pesticides or herbicides, although he'd still cultivate. Those three rows were taken over by vegetation such as johnson grass and tie vines aka morning glory, looked like a jungle.