Organic Foods vs Big Farm Foods

[Marine A5 Sniper]

Our family garden is nearly 100% organic, with only a little Sevin dust if things get bad on my tomatos. But I'm retired & have plenty of time to do the hoeing & hand weeding & the patch has shrunk from 2 acres to 30'X25' with a third of it in asparagus & rhubarb & a coupla rows of the wife's strawberries.

We're blessed with having black bottom dirt that is among the top 0.5% of all land in productivity inthe nation, the last glacier stopped just north of us, before receding.

Brazil got tired of being at the mercy of OPEC 15-17 years ago & opted out. Their economy is booming & their vehicles run fine, despite what the American Petroleum Industry & the Natural Gas industry says. We need to return to having clean 100% coal burning electrical generating plants, doing away with nuclearpower plants (remember Japan & Chernobyl?) & save the natural gas for home heating needs & fertiliser..........

Surprise, surprise, Brazil imports about 700,000 bbls per day of oil. Neither the API nor the NG Industry have ever said squat about Brazil and its oil imports. Why would they care? I am a member of the API, by the way. I don't get the connection.

We also need to remember the hundreds of miners who die in the coal mines. Has a nuclear power plant killed anyone in the USA yet? How about Japan? Since Chernobyl was the lousiest design on Earth, and the only one of its kind in the world, it is a poor example of impending disaster. The car in which you ride has a poorer safety record than our nuclear power plants. Do you worry about that too?

If you use Sevin dust, your garden doesn't qualify as being organic. Sorry.

jt

[John Sukey]

Only in America do we turn food into fuel while there is starvation in many third world countries.
By the way the reason coal miners die is because of greedy mine owners who sidestep safety regulations and the government agency that is supposed to inspect the mines is staffed by Incompetents.

[da gimp]

& thethird world countries we used to give our surplus to, spit on us while they took it & their leaders got rich selling it to their own people & others.

Have seen grown men cry when talking about finding Red Cross, Quaker & US Aid food & supplies in North Vietnamese camps/bunker complexes they overran.....

They're figuring the death toll on the Japanese nucleardisaster (reactors are same design as one's in US) at over 10,000, maybe over 100,000 eventually. The Japs are squashing the news as to stop/forestall demands that all nuclear power plants there be shut down.

Many nuclear power plants here in the USA are situated in just as perilous locations as those in Japan.

Go back to using clean, safe, cheap coal for our power plants. The whole idea of "dirty coal" was an invention by the Natural Gas Industry.......... & they chumped former US Sen.Alan Simpson of Wyoming into setting this up............

[da gimp]

I am a member of the API, by the way.



Gimps response:There must be a 12 Step Program in your area Jimmy where you can get the help that you need to quit....... Think how proud your grandkids will be when they can get up in class & tell their friends that their grandpa is on the road to recovery.......




Quote from JimmyT:If you use Sevin dust, your garden doesn't qualify as being organic. Sorry.


Gimps response: jimmy, if you notice in my original post, I said nearly organic, with only a lil Sevin used on those vicious pests attacking my tomatoes, I have no pity on those fiends that get near my Big Boys & BeefSteaks........ when them bums mess with my maters, all bets are off.......


jt

[Vern Humphrey]

Only in America do we turn food into fuel while there is starvation in many third world countries.
By the way the reason coal miners die is because of greedy mine owners who sidestep safety regulations and the government agency that is supposed to inspect the mines is staffed by Incompetents.

There is starvation because of distribution, not lack of supply. It is a mistake to think starvation is due to a world-wide shortage of food. In fact there is a surplus of food.

Most people who are starving are in that situation because they live under brutal dictators who use starvation as a weapon, or are the victims of tribal warfare.

[Vern Humphrey]

I have horses and feed round bales of hay in the winter. Each spring I have a mound of trampled hay, manure, and so on in the pasture. I scoop that up with a tractor and use it in my garden. So I guess you can say I'm an "organic gardener."

[Guamsst]

Organic foods are a money maker. You can complain about how expensive it is to grow "healthy", "poison free" food then raise your prices accordingly. You can't do it on a large scale but it works for smaller farms and distributors.

[Hal O'Peridol]

Won't be any coal plants built either. There is an organized international effort to shut down the US coal industry. In our are they are even protesting the transit of coal TRAINS through town, and the geenie Canucks up in Vancouver are doing the same.

Where is the coal going? China. Because the market is not here, and the greenies mantra is "There's no such thing as clean coal".

[RED]

Home grown Union propaganda... It was all over the news lately that Brazil's economy is so great they overtook the UK as the 9th largest economy. That's GREAT news about a great economy, right?

Hello, it is all B.S. Brazil has 190 million folks producing 2% more than UK's 60 million! Not only that, both country's GDP grew because of inflation. Brazil's currency lost 11% of it's value in relation to the U.S. dollar in the past year and inflation there has averaged over 7% per year for the past 10 years.

So says our resident spokesman for the American Petroleum Institute & the Natural Gas Industry which is scared chitless that the USA will go the way of Brazil & run 100% of their vehicles on ethanol & biodiesel........& Brazils industry & vehicles do just fine & have for 12 years or so........[

The good news is all about ethanol, right?. They produce more there than almost anyplace else except for... Hello... the USA which produces 300% more the ethanol than Brazil (look it up)!!

Then there is the average average income for Brazil of $4,000 per year... Hello... while the Po Folks here in the USA averages a mere $15,000.

Question for you Mr. Gimp... what is it you think we are doing wrong that Brazil is doing right?

[Marine A5 Sniper]

They're figuring the death toll on the Japanese nucleardisaster (reactors are same design as one's in US) at over 10,000, maybe over 100,000 eventually. The Japs are squashing the news as to stop/forestall demands that all nuclear power plants there be shut down....

Gimp, where in the world did you get those figures? Only 160 people were exposed enough to even require being checked for radiation poisoning. Nothing released can kill a human.

jt