Voids in metal?

[islandhopper]

I've seen Garand receivers with manufacturing voids that sort of look like pitting but aren't. My question is have any of you ever seen these kinds of voids in 1911 frames or slides? Just curious. Thank you.

[Duane Hansen]

No.......

[rider]

It's hard to get voids with forged steel.

[Johnny P]

The voids on the M1 Rifle receivers appeared to be on an edge where the forging did not fill out completely, but was not bad enough to reject the receiver.

[rider]

So non-spec M1 receiver billets made it to and through the machining processes before being discovered? Uh oh, that would be some expensive scrap.

[Johnny P]

The ones I have seen were on completed rifles, so apparently they were still to spec. The small area where they did not fill out was only cosmetic.

I have seen forgings for 1911/1911A1 receivers that did not fill out completely, and were saved as a souvenir.

[islandhopper]

Thank you all. I did not think so but thought I'd ask. How about on small parts? Just interested. Yes, the Garand rifles I have seen with these voids were complete rifles as well. The GCA Journal had a Winchester featured several years back that had these voids on the edge and side of the rear of the receiver, on the left side. It was about as close to an unfired WWII rifle as they come so it was very minty. They appear at the rear of the heel as well as up front, at the edge in front of the scalloped area above the clip latch. I have one like this.

[Doug Douglass]

I have an early US&S .45 where the grip frame under the trigger guard has pit defects. Obviously it still was shipped and issued.

[Rock]

They appear at the rear of the heel as well as up front, at the edge in front of the scalloped area above the clip latch. I have one like this.

I have one like that too. SA 625xxx, the area above the clip latch and above the scalloped area. Looks like the tried to smooth it over by grinding it. Probably made it look worse than it was. But it was the beginning of the war and they needed every one, cosmetically challenged receivers included.

[islandhopper]

I have one like that too. SA 625xxx, the area above the clip latch and above the scalloped area. Looks like the tried to smooth it over by grinding it. Probably made it look worse than it was. But it was the beginning of the war and they needed every one, cosmetically challenged receivers included.

Rock,

Don't have my reference info in front of me but probably a mid-summer 1942 rifle?

Doug,

I'd like to see a photo of that area of the pistol if it is not too much trouble. Either though, thanks for the post and information.