Swiss rifles

[dryheat]

I have a question on bayonets. I bought a sawback Swiss bayo but I don't know what it goes on.

[Calfed]

Hmm, OK, maybe that's why I have wondered why they called such a long rifle a carbine. I guess I have been following bad nomenclature in some of the descriptions(or just haven't been paying attention). I've looked at a lot of Swiss rifles on gunbroker and have never seen G11 mentioned. Am I on the right track? K means carbine....I knew that...

Some of my European friends refer to the 1911 long rifle as a "G11" (Gewehr-11). Over here, we tend to describe it as the Schmidt Ruben 1911. The K11 is a short version of the SR 1911 rifle.

Here is a link to a great informative website regarding Swiss rifles.

http://www.swissrifles.com/

[dryheat]

Here is a link to a great informative website regarding Swiss rifles.-

Excellent site. I have been on it all morning and will need to re read some of it. I learned my bayonet is a Model 14 Pioneer that someone thought needed to be sharpened and took some of the bulge on the front off.

[Rick the Librarian]

As a historian, the tag in the butt with the previous issuee has always been a neat feature to me! I have a K31 and I hope to start reloading for it soon.

[4F4Nam]

Uhhhhhhhhh.....Calfed, do you intend to leave any rifles out there for the rest of us??????? Hehehe!

Ed

[dryheat]

As a historian, the tag in the butt with the previous issuee has always been a neat feature to me! I have a K31 and I hope to start reloading for it soon.

Have you fouond a "troop tag"? I fouond one in my first one and considered trying to contact him, but after googling the town in Swizterland I found a dozen names and doubted the merit of calling people who might not know what the heck I was talking about.

[n64atlas]

I have a question on bayonets. I bought a sawback Swiss bayo but I don't know what it goes on.

There are three versions of the "Sawback" Pioneer bayonet. The 1878,1887, and 1911. The simble way to tell what you have is by how many rivits hold the grips on.
1878 has 3, 1887 has 4 and the 1911 has 2. There is a transition model 1906 that has a 78/87 style blade and a 1911 grip. The 1911 bayonet is designed for the 1911carbine. This info is from "Bayonets" from Janzen's notebook

[dryheat]

This one has two rivits. I can believe this is meant for the Karbine, if it was on anything longer it would stretch into the next county.

[Rick the Librarian]

Have you fouond a "troop tag"? I fouond one in my first one and considered trying to contact him, but after googling the town in Swizterland I found a dozen names and doubted the merit of calling people who might not know what the heck I was talking about.

There have been a number of stories of collectors contacting the people whose rifles they bought with some success. The problem is not only several people with the same name, but the fact that by now, some of these people have probably passed away or are quite elderly. I do remember at least one guy whose rifle's former "owner" sent pictures and information about his time in service, which was very interesting.

I would recommend, to get the "flavor" of the times, reading "Target: Switzerland" by Stephen Halbrook. An excellent book setting the background for Switzerland's armed neutality during WWII.

[FW!]

I took a walk through the Gander Mt store in Utica, MI today. They had a rack full of swiss rifles tagged as Huskvarna. I wasn't aware that they manf'd rifles for the swiss