M 44

[Rick]

Gave my 44 Mosin Nagant a good cleaning today. Had a big pile of patches and still didn't come out as clean as I would have liked.

The Carbine really shoots to the left. Have moved the front sight over as much as I can to the left and it still shoots left. I have extended the bayonet and it helped a little but still shoots to the left.

Would look ugly to take the bayonet all the way off but would that help it move the group to the right?

[C5M1]

It might help to take it off. Try it and get back to us. The same problem exists with mine, extending the bayonet brings impact point back to the right about 3 feet though. Front sight is still hanging out in space. Wondered about the bayo removal but haven't tried it yet.

Squirt some hoppes in the barrel and lay the rifle on its side with the muzzle pointed slightly down.(5 gal bucket works fine) Turn er over once or twice a day to evenly coat the bore. Add a little more hoppes once a day. When it stops dripping blue/green (2 or 3 days) yur done. Sure beats scrubbing. If done in the house have plenty of rags to catch the mess.

regards, dennis

[BlitzKrieg]

The problem with some M44 is that are sittiing in stocks that are routed out a bit large (or have shrunk over time..wood does that) and the firing of the weapon moves that barrel around or the barrel can be rubbing in the stock channel.

Pull off the hand guard, play with some shims in the action to tighten it to the stock and see if you can correct the problem. There is a good c hance you can but it takes tinkering around and time.

Frustrating I know but if you hit the sweet spot on shims and relieving wood pressure in the barrel channel...your rifle will perform.

[Andy/CA]

The problem with some M44 is that are sittiing in stocks that are routed out a bit large (or have shrunk over time..wood does that) and the firing of the weapon moves that barrel around or the barrel can be rubbing in the stock channel.

Pull off the hand guard, play with some shims in the action to tighten it to the stock and see if you can correct the problem. There is a good c hance you can but it takes tinkering around and time.

Frustrating I know but if you hit the sweet spot on shims and relieving wood pressure in the barrel channel...your rifle will perform.

I have a late production M44, which needs a touch of a sight adjustment as well... no real difference with or without bayonet extended. What's the best way to move the sights over??? A squirt of penetrant & a careful application of a brass punch & sledgehammer? I've toyed around with some 1" / 2" adj. clamps... which may work, but wanted to find out what others have done.

Btw, this is my best shooter mosin... nice tight groups with everything it digests... from 50's Bulg to some recent Polska.

thanks in advance...

[Rick]

Had one heck of a time moving the front sight. It tightens when you move the front sight to the left to move the group right. Removed the sight by tapping to the right. Cleaned everything up with a Swiss file set and I was able to move the front sight left.


Tapping was a little bit of an understatement. It was more like two men,a heavy vise, customized short bit punch, soaking in penetrating oil, and a good sized hammer.

I will try shimming the stock. At present the barrel is free floating but does have a little up pressure at the forward end of the stock. Did buy an extra stock but it shot worse than the original. The original stocks butt stock is two pieces glued together and has several splices. The butt stock is in one piece on the extra stock but has some splices in the forward end.

Those Russians must of had a severe shortage of wood. They spent a lot of time splicing and didn't waste a scrap of wood.