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    Default How many of these were made?

    Does anyone know how many M1Cs were converted to USMC 1952 MC1 rifle?
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    With the SA-52 stamp on the heel I'd say "zero". Looks like an unplugged "C". Just what I can see from the pics mind you....

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    This rifle was sold by the CMP Auction on 5/14/2000 with a plugged receiver for $3,015

    Always good to ask questions prior to spending hard earned dollars!!!

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    That's good info - thanks. I have a letter from GCA certifying the M1C receiver. The letter further states that the vast majority of USMC 1952 (M1C) rifles were built (rebuilt) by Springfield Armory with M1C receivers.
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    What Jeremy and dobek are trying to tell you is that this receiver was more than likely never used as a sniper by the US Military. When the Korean War started there was a scramble to re-start M1 production, but in the interim Springfield Armory refurbed large numbers of rifles. Because there was a pressing need for Service rifles Springfield Armory converted a large number of existing M1C rifles and receivers (as many as 4077, see page 39 of Duff's blue book) to Service rifles by plugging the mount holes in the receiver. The consensus is that these were marked with the SA-52 rebuilt mark on the receiver. Just because the receiver falls with the M1C range does not guarantee it was used as a sniper by the US Military. I pays to do your research.

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    I question the SA-52 marked Garands never being built into sniper rifles statement as I have seen SA-52 marked receivers where the holes showed obvious signs of staking where a mount was installed at one time.
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    Thanks for the info. I'm always amazed at the guys who track the stuff at this level of detail. I wish I had the time to do it. I think I have the story now. The gun was sold by CMP in 2000. The GCA letter certifying it as an M1C (WWII) receiver is dated 2001. I bought it (as pictured) in 2002. So between 2000 and 2002 someone built it into an MC1 configuration. Which is how it was sold to me. I would still like to know how many MC1s (1952s) were made by G&H.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwbuff View Post
    I would still like to know how many MC1s (1952s) were made by G&H.
    G&H may have done the work to attach the mounting bracket on M1Cs, but they didnt specificallly make any 1952s. In a USMC armourers manual, there specs to drill receivers to make 1952s - so not all 1952s are going to fall in the M1C SN range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPEEDGUNNER View Post
    I question the SA-52 marked Garands never being built into sniper rifles statement as I have seen SA-52 marked receivers where the holes showed obvious signs of staking where a mount was installed at one time.
    I think the reason you see "SA-52 marked receivers where the holes showed obvious signs of staking where a mount was installed at one time" is because a "mount" WAS installed at one time. During the 1951-52 rebuild program M1C sniper rifles were altered to service rifle configuration. The holes were plugged as part of the overhaul process. You may have just seen former M1C receivers that went through the rebuild and subsequently had the plugs removed.

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    Do we have any evidence of a legit 1952 that does NOT fall in the M1C serial range?

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